robinrenwick

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

97% !
at least the track is a bit better than the last "von pip" score.

how many percent did she get for being cute? be honest now.

in fairness though, i accept, it is good. catchy if nothing else.
but definately not 3% from being so perfect that when you listen your head falls off.

i think we should have a formula for von pip's scores.
whatever he gives, half it and then add 20. that should sort it out.

but yes, i really like those legs in the video.
i reckon if i got a pair i could definately win gold at London 2012.
no bother.

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Comment Posted on: October 27, 2009, 10:49 PM

 

Andy Von Pip

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

Tsk, tsk , such cynicism, it appears the review police have arrived and are on my case again ........ but you see you think its not 3% off being perfect, I do. There's no right or wrong, it's just a matter of preference. My old Dad thinks Cannon And Ball are comedy geniuses, is he right? ( erm well actually no he isn't , thats a bad example, but you get my drift )

Mind you there are some folk (not here of course) who frown upon showing any enthusiasim with regard to music, its all about being a little aloof , a little 'arch'... There are others who think reviews should be undertaken with a cold logical approach. But nope not me, I dont care if a song has a chugging chord progression that brings to mind the sonic experimentation of Van der Graaf Generator or if they are using a Casio WA 564 keyboard, I tend to react on an emotional level beacuse thats what it's all about ( to me.) Studied cool and "ohh look I've just swallowed a thesaurus" is for the NME.

M&TD have released two limited EP's prior to this which again were quite marvelous and surely would induce joy in the iciest of hearts. Anyways it still wont stop me giving what I feel is a score that reflects my true reaction, or worry what the style police have to say, you start doing that and you lose your honesty.

I also think maybe we should have a formula for Robin's comments, read then take a very large pinch of salt

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 07:15 AM

 

Floris Stoter

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

I don't really have a vagina though.
And the songs I've written are way better than this.

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 10:57 AM

 

robinrenwick

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

sorry, i thought the whole idea of a review was to try and remain objective.
but then again maybe this is actually a music blogging site - ed?

i am going to go look for a nice shiny "style police" badge now. i really like that idea, the badge will fit snugly in with my Ralph Lauren shirt and my uber-cool sparkling Ray Bans.

pretty long response though.
wouldn't it have been easier to say that it probably deserved 85% objectively and that because you personally adored, it you gave it an extra dozen.

much more accurate i would have thought.

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 03:31 PM

 

jack s

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

I think we have a scrap on our hands here. Ding ding, VP vs RW .

I'm still of the opinion that a 10 should never be placed in a rating.

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 04:26 PM

 

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Why though Jack? If nothing can ever be given a 10 then what is the point?

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 04:45 PM

 

Andy Von Pip

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

Originally Posted by robinrenwick

sorry, i thought the whole idea of a review was to try and remain objective.
but then again maybe this is actually a music blogging site - ed?

Objective ; Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices...
Errm how can you be objective when any review is a personal take on how you feel about the music in question? Perhaps you could forward me the formal "objectivity tool kit" that you use when reviewing??? Is there some sort of guide book ?

Originally Posted by robinrenwick

i am going to go look for a nice shiny "style police" badge now. i really like that idea, the badge will fit snugly in with my Ralph Lauren shirt and my uber-cool sparkling Ray Bans.

pretty long response though.
wouldn't it have been easier to say that it probably deserved 85% objectively and that because you personally adored, it you gave it an extra dozen. much more accurate i would have thought.

Hardly "War & Peace" though is it ? So I should give it 85 % because the school of cool doesn’t agree? Because I don't impose the same parameters or laser like logic as you ? Maybe we should all take marks off for fear of being too enthusiastic which aint cool or may offend intellectual aesthetics ? Just because you dont agree , doesnt make you anymore correct than me.

Isn't reviewing about trying to convey enthusiasim or otherwise for a song because reaction to music is emotive and therefore by definition not objective .

If you think a 10 can never be given then yeah ,why bother. "Psycho Candy" gets a 10 from me everytime, other people hate it . Yet nobodies correct. Also giving a 10 doesnt always mean this is a "perfect" song there are many things to be weighed up.... Ok so we wont use 10 cos thats just not attainable, so nine becomes top marks.. ooops better not use that either , eight then ? Nah too high. I know let's just not rate anything

In the context of the music being produced in the current climate, budgets etc and how 'Mowgli's Road'came about 97% pretty much accurately represents how I feel about it. If you can't rate how you feel about music again whats the point ...If you dont agree fine, but telling me how I should review this "accurately "is maybe a tad patronising and smells of donkey cock.

Still I'm glad you did actually like the song..

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 06:48 PM

 

catshoe

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

This thread has 4321 views - that's quite impressive. As for the debate about the score, better to wear hearts on sleeves than be blanded out. And that's just my opinion.

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Comment Posted on: October 28, 2009, 07:59 PM

 

Floris Stoter

Re: Marina And The Diamonds - Mowgli's Road [Single]

There's more than one style of music writing. One is to express your own feelings, another is just describing the music, which is objective. That I'm positive or negative about a certain album doesn't mean that I love it or hate it, I just observe it from a musical point of view. I usually can't be bothered about other people's opinions, I just want to know what the music sounds like., so that's what I write about myself.
On the other hand, by giving it a 97% rating you did attract my attention and that of 4000 others, so I think there's lots of things to say for both ways.

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Comment Posted on: October 29, 2009, 10:10 AM

 

Andy Von Pip

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Comment Posted on: October 29, 2009, 05:27 PM