robinrenwick

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

hang on there.....
you should start by using a main mixer and then combinators to seperate your intruments.

each combinator having their own mixer so that you can keep all effects,compressors etc for each instrument in one place. this method is much tidier.

if you hold shift while creating an instrument it wont wire it for you, so you can do your own wiring, which is much better.......

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Comment Posted on: May 21, 2009, 01:17 PM

 

altsounds

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

No no, I am talking about main mixers. If you add a 15th item it has no way of the audio coming out. You use a combinator and mixer for every instrument? That's just crazy, surely you don't need a 14:1 mixer on every instrument? How many effects are you adding to them!!

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Comment Posted on: May 22, 2009, 01:11 PM

 

robinrenwick

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

for most projects i do use one "main mixer".

then one "drum" combi that has three mixers, three drum machines.
each drum output routed through their own idividual effects (scream/comp/reverb etc ) and then routed individually to its own corresponding mixer channel.

then i set up seperate combis for each synth patch.
just to keep everything tidy.
things can get very very messy when you are using spider audio splitters and cv spiltters.
this way i can minimise the combi when i am not using it.
i dont always use every mixer channel but when you have a big rack it simplifies things.

having so many mixers through the rack is a bit lunatic, but they dont use much processing power......

this method also allows me to set up designted effect combis on the sends on the main mixer, and these are kept tidy as well.......

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Comment Posted on: May 22, 2009, 08:51 PM

 

altsounds

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

Yep all makes sense, what I am referring to is the people that simply load-in loads of different synths etc and then wonder why the 15th one can't be heard.

Sounds like you got your Reason stuff down too then Robin, do you have any of your music available for a listen anywhere?

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Comment Posted on: May 22, 2009, 10:19 PM

 

robinrenwick

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

my music is at
stardancer - Tracks - SoundCloud
it is all pretty straight up techno and electro though......so be kind......!
there is a short techno set i mixed for a club night here in ireland for download too, the stuff that really twists my biscuit.....
most of my own stuff was done all on reason. although ableton was used for some vst synth passes...both vst and real...

enjoy, and if you hate it, love it or hear anything that you think i need to improve on do let me know.
a critical ear is always welcome and sometimes so hard too find.....
and life is one long learning process really......

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Comment Posted on: May 22, 2009, 11:11 PM

 

altsounds

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

It's all a little too progressive for me unfortunately although loads of good ideas in there. Must say also that it appears to be mastered quite quietly too and isn't given the tracks as much low end punch as should be expected. You should start working on producing everything a bit louder aswell so that the mastering doesn't need so much of a push. My productions pretty much come out at the level required for mastering these days but that's taken me years of full time practice.

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Comment Posted on: May 23, 2009, 04:35 PM

 

robinrenwick

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

you are 100% right about the volume thing.
it is probably something that i should read up on.
but when i received the masters back i actually thought the low end was pretty "big", and when played loud it was really clear.....

i was also asked to leave lots of headroom to give the masterer room to play with....
i know i should probably master through stems,and that might be half the problem, but the "proper" studio i have access too is not so keen on techno.....!

that is where i am at with my knowledge.

any tips, do pass them on.....

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Comment Posted on: May 23, 2009, 06:04 PM

 

altsounds

Re: Reason Tip: Using more than 14 Instruments in Reason

Why would you be leaving the headroom for the mastering engineer? A little bit backwards there me thinks. My tip would be to break all the rules and just do what sounds good with the intention being to get your production output as loud and big sounding as possible.

Nothing you can do in a "proper" studio you can't do in your house although to be honest to get better quality productions you should be outputting Reason into a DAW so that you can process each individual item with various VST FX (compressors, EQs etc). You can do this either with Re-wire or by soloing each track and exporting it as a WAV file and then importnig it into your DAW. Without doing this step your mixes will always be shallower cause Reason just doesn't give you the mix control you need.

It's all personal preference really but I like big, loud mixes and masters something that knocks your head off from the moment it starts playing although for what you are doing that's probably not a good thing. A really good master wil lbe the difference so just experiment with who you use, or learn to do it yourself.

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Comment Posted on: May 23, 2009, 06:30 PM